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Karma: The Syrian Edition

From: the Daily Mail

Well, representative government strikes again.

The United States, no, of course not, the United Kingdom

You see, “call me Dave” Cameron’s government forced him to take the Syrian intervention to Parliament. This in the country where Barack Obama has or is doing the following:

  1. Siding with Argentina over the Falkland Islands
    This has remained the top insult for four years running. For sheer offensiveness it’s hard to beat the Obama administration’s brazen support for Argentina’s call for negotiations over the sovereignty of the Falklands, despite the fact that 255 British servicemen laid down their lives to restore British rule over the Islands after they were brutally invaded in 1982.
  2. Snubbing the funeral of Lady Thatcher
    Incredibly, the Obama presidency declined to send a single serving official from Washington to attend the Iron Lady’s funeral in St. Paul’s Cathedral in April. While the United States was represented by former Secretaries of State George Schultz and James A. Baker III, the only American official present was Barbara Stephenson, charges d’affaires and acting ambassador at the US Embassy in London.
  3. Holding up a Senate Resolution honouring Lady Thatcher
    Disgracefully, Senate Democrats – key Congressional allies of President Obama, representing his own party – held up a Senate resolution honouring the life and legacy of Margaret Thatcher for several days, before it was finally passed unanimously the day before her funeral.
  4. Lecturing Britain against leaving the EU
    The Obama administration has attempted to intervene on several occasions over the past few months on the issue of British membership of the European Union. In an interview with Adam Boulton on Sky News, outgoing US Ambassador to London, Louis Susman, made it clear that Washington is firmly opposed to Britain leaving the EU
  5. Throwing Churchill out of the Oval Office
    It is hard to think of a more derogatory message to send to the British people within days of taking office than to fling a bust of Winston Churchill out of the Oval Office and send it packing back to the British Embassy – not least as it was a loaned gift from Britain to the United States as a powerful display of solidarity in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington.
  6. Placing a “boot on the throat” of BP
    The Obama administration’s relentless campaign against Britain’s largest company in the wake of the Gulf oil spill was one of the most damaging episodes in US-UK relations in recent years, with 64 percent of Britons agreeing at the time that the president’s handling of the issue had harmed the partnership between the two countries according to a YouGov poll. The White House’s aggressive trashing of BP, including a threat to put a “boot on the throat” of the oil giant, helped wipe tens of billions of pounds from its share value, directly impacting the pensions of millions of Britons.
  7. Using a State Dinner for the British Prime Minister as a campaign event
    In March 2012, the White House used an official state dinner for David Cameron to reward over 40 top Obama re-election campaign financiers with coveted seats at the taxpayer-funded banquet.
  8. DVDs for the Prime Minister
    This insult has featured in all four editions, not least because it remains a powerful example of breathtaking diplomatic ineptitude that would have shamed the protocol office of an impoverished Third World country. British Prime Minister Gordon Brown was treated extremely shabbily when he visited the White House in March 2009, and was sent home with an assortment of 25 DVDs ranging from Toy Story to The Wizard of Oz – which couldn’t even be played in the UK
  9. Insulting words from the State Department
    The mocking views of a senior State Department official following Gordon Brown’s embarrassing reception at the White House in March 2009 says it all:
    There’s nothing special about Britain. You’re just the same as the other 190 countries in the world. You shouldn’t expect special treatment.
  10. Calling France America’s strongest ally
    In January 2011, President Obama held a joint press conference at the White House with his French counterpart, gushing with praise for Washington’s new-found Gallic friends, declaring: “We don’t have a stronger friend and stronger ally than Nicolas Sarkozy, and the French people.” *

So, what happened? He lost 285 votes to 272.

As Paul Revere might say, The Redcoats are NOT coming.”

The thing is, for all that the British Parliament is often an undisciplined zoo during debate, especially as compared with the sedate US House of Representatives, voting is a very disciplined activity, voting against your party can often abruptly end your career.

But in this case an entire string of Tory members spoke against the operation.

From: The Daily Mail

The Archbishop of Canterbury said this:

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And apparently the administration has lied about the intelligence as well From the Daily Caller via Atlas Shrugs**

The Obama administration has selectively used intelligence to justify military strikes on Syria, former military officers with access to the original intelligence reports say, in a manner that goes far beyond what critics charged the Bush administration of doing in the run-up to the 2003 Iraq war.The doctored report was leaked to a private Internet-based newsletter that boasts of close ties to the Israeli intelligence community, and led to news reports that the United States now had firm evidence showing that the Syrian government had ordered the chemical weapons attack on August 21 against a rebel-controlled suburb of Damascus.

The doctored report was picked up on Israel’s Channel 2 TV  on Aug. 24, then by Focus magazine in Germany, the Times of Israel, and eventually by The Cable  in Washington, DC.

According to the doctored report, the chemical attack was carried out by the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division of the Syrian Army, an elite unit commanded by Maher al-Assad, the president’s brother.

However, the original communication intercepted by Unit 8200 between a major in command of the rocket troops assigned to the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division, and the general staff, shows just the opposite.

The general staff officer asked the major if he was responsible for the chemical weapons attack. From the tone of the conversation, it was clear that “the Syrian general staff were out of their minds with panic that an unauthorized strike had been launched by the 155th Brigade in express defiance of their instructions,” the former officers say.

According to the transcript of the original Unit 8200 report, the major “hotly denied firing any of his missiles” and invited the general staff to come and verify that all his weapons were present.

Read the rest

This has happened in the United Kingdom at least once before

From: The Daily Mail

 

The interesting part here is that Cameron submitted his plan to parliament and will abide by the result. In the British system whether that is required is problematical. Under the American constitution it is required beyond doubt. From Ilya Somin

The answer is that in founding-era terminology war could be “declared” either by formal announcement or by military action initiating hostilities. John Locke’s classic Two Treatises of Government from the late 17th century referred to “declar[ing] by word or action.” Blackstone and Vattel, two of the 18th century legal writers most influential in America, also used “declare” in this way…***

And:

[…]

The British government seems to understand that it is a bad idea to enter a war without a broad political consensus behind the decision. His actions are in sharp contrast to the Obama administration’s unwillingness to seek congressional authorization for its war in Libya or for a possible US military intervention in Syria. This, despite the fact that the need for legislative authorization under Britain’s unwritten constitution is probably less clear than it is under Article I of the US Constitution, which gives Congress the exclusive authority to declare war. ****

 

There is a fair amount of hand wringing going on in Britain about the state of the alliance, personally I suspect they have just strengthened it. I believe America is smart enough to realize that we want allies that are wise enough to think about things even when we are not. And perhaps even offer us an example of how a free people govern themselves. As for the alliance, I think Churchill covered that long ago.

It is not given to us to peer into the mysteries of the future. Still, I avow my hope and faith, sure and inviolate, that in the days to come the British and American peoples will for their own safety and for the good of all walk together side by side

in majesty, in justice, and in peace.

 

*Nile Gardiner in the Daily Telegraph.

** THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT GOT IT RIGHT

*** Originalism and the Constitutionality of Military Intervention in Syria

**** British Parliament Votes Against Military Intervention in Syria

 

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